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yingyang Original Settler

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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:18 am Post subject: Homosexuality |
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The recent furor (in Nevis and here in Grenada) over gay cruises, as well as the ongoing situation in Jamaica, has brought this issue firmly back in the forefront of local debate.
This is interesting. And in comparison so is this.
Check this out too. _________________ YY out
I realize that I'm generalising here, but as is often the case when I generalise, I don't care. |
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Leswards Original Settler
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:41 am Post subject: The right to not have an opinion |
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OaktreeZ Born & Bred
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:16 am Post subject: |
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THE GREAT DEBAT????
this is the first topic?
No pun intended but can this topic be moved to the bottom? lol |
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yingyang Original Settler

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Oaktreez, I made a note that you requesting BOTTOM! I watching you! _________________ YY out
I realize that I'm generalising here, but as is often the case when I generalise, I don't care. |
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OaktreeZ Born & Bred
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Note all you want....this brother is very secure.
My wife told me I was a Homophobic (don't even know if I spelt that right) I am learning.... to Live and let Live. Think whatever you'll want its a start.
Truthfully, I have Never been a Kill Battyman "yout" except for singing the popular songs. However I have a particular issue with the idiots who feel they need too throw their sexual abnormalities in your face. For the record "I don't give too sh#ts whether u is a BULLAR or not...keep your sh@t too yourself and nobody go kill ur arse. NOOooooo da "fairy idiots" will go prancing around the place telling everybody dey normal and dey have rights etc etc...den dey get kill and dey crying "gay bimbo's" saying the world is harsh. |
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guabancex Born & Bred

Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 55 Location: 13 53 N, 60 68 W
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| For the record "I don't give too sh#ts whether u is a BULLAR or not...keep your sh@t too yourself and nobody go kill ur arse. |
Soooo, you're very secure huh? Methinks you doth protest too much.  _________________ 5 ninjas, 1 kitten and a fifth of vodka! |
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OaktreeZ Born & Bred
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:27 am Post subject: |
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granted I have never been at either end of the situation...neither the harrasSER or the harraSEY...But it ent a protest...its just free advice from a qualified fellow " LIVING, UN-HARRASED human being".
Uh..qualified in staying alive
The ACTUAL PROTEST is Homo-sexuals throwing their sexuality in everyones face, period. If they do that then they invite the public into their personal lives and then......tell me again who is supposed to expect fairness from the general public? |
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guabancex Born & Bred

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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| The ACTUAL PROTEST is Homo-sexuals throwing their sexuality in everyones face, period. |
Yeah, I hear you. But then again I bet whites got pretty tired with all the afroed psuedo intellectuals stalking around yelling 'I'm Black and I'm proud' every 5 mins. And I know all the feminist, pardon, womanist ( ) cant blaming men for every problem assailing the species pisses most males off. Hell, it pisses me off and I'm a broad. I expect that once people who live 'alternate lifestyles' (what an odd expression) feel more socially assured we'll hear less from them. _________________ 5 ninjas, 1 kitten and a fifth of vodka! |
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OaktreeZ Born & Bred
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Uhhh...sorry "BROAD". But how can you equate the PROTEST of blacks and women to the parading of gays? I am sorry for the generalisation, and I accept there are exceptions to the rule...BUT GET ME RIGHT...
Blacks or women didn;t go around protesting BEFORE they began getting persicuted. Even the gays who go marching for their rights, tell you the truth I ent even hating on that.
I am talking about the gays who throw their sexuality in your face "juss so". I guess they call what I am suggesting being in the closet...well someone please tell them that the average person don;t go around saying "I'm Straight and I'm proud" in my opinion. Society general dosn;t accept gays...so keep your sh@t to yourself and your partners, then nobody is none the wiser...then you don;t get killed...just a suggestion. |
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yingyang Original Settler

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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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how can you equate the PROTEST of blacks and women to the parading of gays? I am sorry for the generalisation, and I accept there are exceptions to the rule...BUT GET ME RIGHT...
Blacks or women didn't go around protesting BEFORE they began getting persicuted. Even the gays who go marching for their rights, tell you the truth I ent even hating on that. |
Well lets see now. The "parading" of gays is not quite the same as gays protesting for gay rights? While I acknowledge that the "out and in your face" homosexual faction is irritating, they view themselves as being as radical and ground-breaking (for the cause) as the Black Panthers were for blacks. What is it exactly that makes the rights of blacks or women more important than the rights of a homosexual? You're gay so you loose your right to protest unfair treatment? Come on. That like the rationale that was used by whites to justify racism and segregation - "Oh n*ggers don't have the capacity to understand how to vote", or "N*ggers can't drive cars"or "N*ggers don't know how to behave in company so they can't eat in the dining room". Women were considered too mentally incapable to understand what voting meant. Or not bright enough to be educated beyond basic levels. Or too emotional to hold public office. Or too weak to serve in the military. Or too unclean to be allowed into churches. And as a result they were, and still are, denied BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS.
Who exactly are these gay people who throw their sexuality in your face? Whether they run around screaming they gay and proud OR they deep in the closet, all I care about is that they (or anyone for that matter) don't ever, ever harm someone I care about. Everyone has the right to say "I gay" or "I straight but I is a ho" or "I like girlie underwear". As long as individual rights don't infringe upon the collective right, so what? The issue of the gay cruise passengers in Gda - Ok I get onboard with the issue of not wanting them (or anyone else for that matter) sucking face all over town. Gay or straight, I don't want to see that in the supermaket or in a restaurant, alright? But you don't even want them to touch down on your soil? Puleezze!
And another thing about closets: 99% of the problems in the world stem from people not being able to acknowledge - to themselves - who they truely are inside. Forget closets, they only good for clothes. Let's practise some discretion instead, all of us. _________________ YY out
I realize that I'm generalising here, but as is often the case when I generalise, I don't care. |
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OaktreeZ Born & Bred
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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OK..let me try to clarify my opinion. I believe the HOMO-cidal mentality came about when gays pushed for societies acceptance and that their acts were not taboo. If it remained taboo, there wouldn;t be an all out "homo-cleansing" program.
I agree, they have a right to live peacefully like everyone else, but to compare their woes and struggle with blacks and women is just not on. |
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yingyang Original Settler

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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| to compare their woes and struggle with blacks and women is just not on |
And your explanation for why this is not on is ...? _________________ YY out
I realize that I'm generalising here, but as is often the case when I generalise, I don't care. |
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Sugar&Spice Born & Bred
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Gosh can we please not do the gay/black thing. When I see gay dude's getting lynched left right and center, burned alive, put through 400 years of slavery, etc then that stupid argument will stop making me sick and getting me pissed off!!!!!!  _________________ Caribbean Queen. |
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OaktreeZ Born & Bred
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Finally another voice of logic. THANKS SUGS......and really I can;t see how the two can even be compared. (Plight of gays and plight of blacks)
And like I said earlier, I am not supporting the harrasment, farless the killing of gays. Right now the have a right to protest their descrimination...but their plight is nothing compared to blacks or women...lets not forget the Jews.
And I could be wrong about this part, but I feel its those gays who in their fight for acceptance from society and the demand to be considered normal agravates the elements who wish them not too exist. The truth of the matter is the average heterosexual male or female is no way near as open with their sexuality. Like they say the gays who have these feminine tendancies act more like women than women themselves. |
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Sugar&Spice Born & Bred
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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That's the whole thing there. They not just petitioning for let live, they petitioning for welcome arms. Then protesting cuh dey not gettin dat. Dey wanna vex with churches and wanna get married in church, etc when it goes against the beliefs of these churches. Ah wah dat?!
I could understand wanting more rights in the civil unions and wanting to feel safe etc. But they are not being told no dogs, no gays, they are not being stopped for driving while gay, a million other things. They need to stop exaggerating their plight and start being a bit more objective and they will get somewhere faster than with all the whining they carryin on wid. _________________ Caribbean Queen. |
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OaktreeZ Born & Bred
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:00 am Post subject: |
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Yeah...they are bitches arn;t they...just make you wanna feel like going out and shoot you wanna dem...lol just kiddin.
But thats the matter, the biggest plight SEEMS to be the strife for society to accept them. Gays who keep their sexuality to the bed room and private places have jobs, houses...as a matter of fact I have heard rumours that there are a lot more gays that any of us could actually imagine...and apparantly they are some of the richest and more powerful people in countries. Now about various organisations NAMELY the church accepting them...thats a whole other story. I think they should just stop bitching and live their lives.....
You know I find we saying the same thing over and over....why don;t one of you gays in the forum say what they real plight of the gay is. maybe I have been blowing hot air and they really have .
UPDATE...just listening to two panelist talking about "Manners" (I am in the UK). One of them who looked male but seem to express himself with a WHOLE lot of feminin gestures. He says "Manners is the Vaselin of Social Inter-course...its the way people get along"
I know how that comment made me feel and I was like was that really necessary, but i don;t want to bias your comments......do you sense thats a fags way of somehow on public tv promoting what he considers normal behavior. I won;t say any more...for the time being.......... OH YES MY TV IS STILL WORKING |
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